Lasse Pedersen
Lasse Pedersen's Comments
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- Newly Released Feature Feedback
- Request for feedback on 'Create new' button
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- Ideas
- Option to hide fields
Yes, I have been talking about this in several places in the Slack channel in recent months.
For Tana to really retain the power and provide the speed entry-/organizing features of an outliner, this outliner mode needs to be available.It could be a mode to switch on and off, but the ideal would be to be able to switch it for a particular node, and it would then apply to all the subnodes in that hierarchy.
I need it for several use cases.
The most obvious one is when planning tasks and breaking them down to subtasks. I do this daily. Whenever I "get closer" on a task at the work to be done, I break it down further.
The task is a super tag with various fields. Even if most of them are hidden, it is still cluttering.A concept of how it could work - functionally - is already visible in the way the editor handles contextual subnodes. (You create it by using Ctrl-Shift down-arrow).
When a contextual subnode has been inserted, you can cycle between showing the fields or not - using Ctrl-down arrow.(But the use cases are not solved by simply using contextual subnodes all the time. It does not facilitate the automatic populating of fields based on ancestors etc.).
An big reason for me originally taking my task system out of task apps and into an outliner (WorkFlowy / Dynalist / Roam Research before Tana) is because of the speed of entry and (re-)organizing.
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"Multiple accounts on the same tab" - what does that mean? Two accounts logged in, in the same browser tab? 🤔
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I seek to handle this through inheritance/extension. Some standard searches.
But yes, it would give Tana more "mainstream appeal" if it was even easier to add some searches to supertags.
Some standard ones or a wizard.Side note: When working out searches for supertags, I also find it worthwhile to consider what "type" of node it is. Some of my types are:
Artifacts - "notes" or items to be "processed" and then archived. Tasks are a subset.
Structural - (they are "permanent" for my graph - part of the spine). Think "master documents". They may have notes directed at them also. For changing the content of them. (Or the structure, when I am system-building).
Hubs - they are longer-term objects (such as people, assets, projects, etc.). They may change status but are generally used for accumulating / processing the information from notes and tasks.
The purpose of, and benefits of searches are different for these types.
Is this a replacement of the pop-up we had with the "lightning" button?
(I use it intensively and had valuable notes there which were not yet dispatched to my today's page. I'm not sure if I need to file a bug report or how to get assistance finding them?)
About the feature - some benefits of the previous version which is now gone, are:
Having the pop-up content in a separate "buffer" allowed me to decide when to add it to my today's page, and at what date.
It was a super-workable and super-accessible way to do lightning fast drops of ideas or tasks or anything else I needed to capture or remember for the day. It could also be used as a sort of post-it for the current day/work. Like a jot-down space that didn't have to make it into my main graph if I got it handled. If I didn't, I could just save it when I close for the day.
This was great, because one of the challenges with Tana is that it is an omni-tool and we tend to have several browser windows open with multiple panels, each in their own work/task context. The pop-up could be easily accessed without risking to mess up any panel layouts.
In addition to the above, even if not using it as a jot-down space during the day - I am still forced to complete the "quick-entry" in one go. If I click "back" to get into my normal context (perhaps to check or copy something), I have no way to reach that created note again. I will then have to jump out to my today's page and scroll to the bottom. Previously I could just click outside the pop-up and find what I needed. And then open the pop-up again and continue my entry.
Overall, I see the (other) benefits of the new Create function. It can do more advanced things, but it could co-exist along with the pop-up / jotting feature which could stay simple. That would give us the best of two worlds.
Edit: I got a tip that the quick add is still available through the command menu. Good - then I can find my stuff there. My vote is that the functionality is kept in the app, and that it keeps an icon in the UI so that it remains a quick add :)